Stone Butch Disco
Stone Butch Disco
S2 E3: Woman Up!
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S2 E3: Woman Up!

Akiva and Rachel continue their butch lesbian firefighter quest, before even one more young person gets convinced that a quest for maleness = the lesbian experience

In this episode, Akiva and Rachel continue their butch lesbian firefighter quest and urge an immediate clarification of The Bearded Lesbian's mission, before even one more young person gets convinced that a quest for maleness = the lesbian experience. We do a deep dive into TBL’s credulous platforming of a 23-year-old trans-identified TikTokker who has been on testosterone since he was 17 but has for the last three months identified as a butch lesbian, promotes medical interventions for lesbians, and believes masculine women cannot currently exist in society. We also talk a lot about sex, but/and wish it was more sexy, which is a promise for next time!

Other topics covered:

  • Lesbian TikTok

  • Asking for a digital/rhetorical restraining order against Andrea Long Chu’s idea (and apparently this person’s shared conviction!) that femaleness = submission

  • Ideology masquerading as illness (disordered thinking is not disorder), and how theory can help!

  • Why you can’t be a queer UFOO (undefinable floating opt-out) and also occupy the category of butch lesbian

  • Real talk about coping with gender nonconformity: A call to woman up when you’re mistaken for a man

Note for listeners: this episode was recording before our last episode, when an exhibit of queer-blob discourse claiming to be “butch lesbian” crossed our path and inspired us to clarify the difference that butch/femme represents in stark relief (and, *exhale*, in emotional relief) against the morass of trans ideology. We’re releasing it alongside Akiva’s new essay “Trans and Butch aren’t compatible. Detrans isn’t much better.” It lays out powerful ways to get your identity back from “not like the other girls” brain worms.

Read it here:

Single-item glossary: “pomo” = postmodernist (the idea that categories don’t have stable contents)

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